Here we go again...

"Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen" (sportwagen) 01/27/2015 at 18:08 • Filed to: None

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I'm back to looking at Miatas again *facepalm*

JayhawkJake reminded me the other day that a cheap "beater" Miata is still cheaper than a full exhaust and tune on my Sportwagen so... yeah. There is no arguing with that. Also, the fact that if something on the VW breaks it will basically bankrupt me but if something on a Miata breaks you can *probably* replace it for relatively cheap!

Ideal Miata:

Just with less stance and more gunmetal grey wheels!

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:16

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No.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:18

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???

I wouldn't be getting rid of the JSW, just getting a second car (the Miata) to mod and beat on because it would be cheaper to run and repair if something breaks

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:21

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http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/why-you-should…

A beater Miata is going to be a money pit. It'll either have trouble passing inspection, Have title issues, or have a shit body.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:24

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Don't do it. It's not as simple as buying another car. You have to fuel it, maintain it, fix it, insure it, register it, possibly get a title, it's a huge process. Take the cost of the car and multiply it by three, and that's what you're dealing with.

UNLESS.

Do what I'm wanting to do and just store it, don't insure it, register it, or tag it, and just tow it to autocross events (note that this would require buying a car dolly to tow it with)

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:25

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No, he bought a bit of a basket case it sounds like. My grandfather has a 1994 Mariner Blue one (like the one in the picture) with 260k miles on and it hasn't skipped a beat yet! It is a bit loose compared to a new one, but it is still a hoot to drive.

The guy who wrote that article must've done something wrong.

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:27

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How long has he had it?

I wouldn't be too sure, I've heard a fair share of Miata horror stories.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 01/27/2015 at 18:30

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WHAT? It wouldn't be that expensive ($5400 to buy and register a $2.3k Miata? Really?)

Also, gas is cheap, insurance would be cut in half for the JSW (around $300 per month right now I think) and the Miata would be around $100 / month to insure on my parent/grandparent's insurance. Also, maintenance wouldn't be all that complicated (hopefully)

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:31

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He bought it new for my uncle when he graduated in 94, got it back in 2006, has been daily driving it since. Drive train (except for clutch) is all original, never rebuilt.

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:34

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Hmmmm, Sounds like it wasn't driven hard?

I personally dislike the Miata, plus I'm too tall for that shit.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:37

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Oh I wouldn't say that! My uncle autocrossed it occasionally and my uncle takes it on roadtrips and such a lot. It hasn't lived an easy life to say the least

I love that Miata. It is fun to drive, revs to the moon (comparatively lol), and the shifter is SOOOO notchy *which is a +*

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:39

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Lol, But they're like driving shoes.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:40

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So?

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:41

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Emphasis on the fact that if you're above 5'8 they're horrible.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:42

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But I'm 5'11??? I fit fine with plenty of head room (with the top up!)

jkm7680 > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 18:44

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I'm about 6'4 and find it absolutely horrible.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680 01/27/2015 at 18:47

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looooool

Local Miata Bro > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 19:50

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Just warning you for me a 18 yo male to get liability insurance on mine is $160 a month granted it will go down in May to around $120 as I will be 3 years accident free.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Local Miata Bro 01/27/2015 at 19:57

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I have had no accidents or tickets and I will be 18 in March... so I will probably be in the same boat as you :/

Local Miata Bro > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 20:04

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BUT IT IS SOOOOOO WORTH IT. FOR THE SAKE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION PLEASE BUY ONE.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Local Miata Bro 01/27/2015 at 20:06

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In around 6 months if I have the money (hopefully around $2.5k for the car, $1k for everything else.)

Does that money figure sound about right for a semi decent NA on CL?

Local Miata Bro > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 20:15

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I got mine for $2200 with 80k and one owner but $2500 should allow for one with decent miles and in good condition.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Local Miata Bro 01/27/2015 at 20:17

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Hopefully :) I really want a blue on and a hard top to go with it...

Local Miata Bro > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 20:23

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Probably won't get a hardtop with that budget. Those are around an extra $800

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Local Miata Bro 01/27/2015 at 20:33

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So around $3k for one with a hardtop?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Local Miata Bro 01/27/2015 at 20:37

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http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4856383798…

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Local Miata Bro 01/27/2015 at 21:03

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH YESSSSSSSS

http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.ph…

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/27/2015 at 23:28

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Not just to buy and register, but to buy, register, and fix all the shit that's likely wrong with it/account for any unforseen issues, which are a huge risk with older cars.

Also miatas are played out as fuck.

Also $300 per month what the actual fuck . That's insane. I'm only paying ~$62 per month on the LeSabre. Jesus. Then again, drivers education discount + defensive driving class discount + 'good student' discount = yay

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 01/27/2015 at 23:48

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I should have all of those... I'm guesstimating the amount there. Probably closer to $200 per month in actuallity with comprehensive also...

Said Miata would be in decent condition (one of my requirements) and in good running condition. All in all it would be cheaper to just buy a $2.5k miata, register and insure it, and fix a couple of things than to mod my car... and fix it if it breaks. Keep that in mind

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 01/28/2015 at 00:03

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I still think you should do something other than a Miata, but I'm a hopeless hipster. MR2 or Fiero, maybe? A 3000GT (they're really reliable as long as you don't miss an oil change or scheduled belt replacement)?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 01/28/2015 at 00:16

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late 80s Mitsubishi Starion/Chrysler Conquest TSi? I like those :P